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Podcast Summary

In an exciting installment of Eventful Endeavors, hosted by Shawn Grindle, we engage in an insightful discussion with Erin Moter, the creative genius behind Embrace U. Located in sunny Southern California, Embrace U is a winning wedding planning company that brings dreams to life. Erin, who ventured into wedding planning as her second career, was initially a venue manager at a prominent location in Southern California, her gateway into professional wedding planning.

Erin’s passion for planning, coupled with the experiences and skills honed from her former career, translate into unforgettable experiences for couples. Her transition from venue management to independent wedding planning affords her freedom and opportunities to work creatively with varied venues. Although Erin is based in Laguna Hills, she serves clients all across Orange County while balancing her responsibilities as a mother to two boys.

Erin passionately advises newly engaged couples to thoroughly understand their priorities before diving into planning. Rather than getting lost in the plethora of beautiful images on Pinterest, Erin believes beginning with a clear vision of what a successful wedding means to the couple will benefit the planning process, inform their budgeting, and simplify decision making.

Erin generously provides a free worksheet, ‘Casting Your Wedding Vision”, to aid couples in this process available on her website. Her combination of passion, creativity, and professional advice towards planning the perfect wedding is what makes Embrace U such a success on the west coast.

This interview was provided by Felix and Fingers Dueling Pianos.

Podcast Transcript

Shawn Grindle (00:25)
Alright, welcome back to another episode of Eventful Endeavors today. We are back in Southern, California today We’re here with Erin who is the creative force behind Embrace U a wedding planning company located out here in SoCal Erin Thank you so much for being here

Erin (00:41)
Yeah, thank you for having me.

Shawn Grindle (00:43)
So I like to kind of start off the same way every time, which is basically just tell us how you got into the wedding industry. Tell us your story.

Erin (00:53)
Yeah, so I guess it all started with just the certain personality. I was planning for friends and family and myself long before I was even dipping my toes in the professional world of this. I had another career, so this was actually my second career. But just, you know, the chances of the universe led me to a role as a venue manager at a beautiful venue in Southern California.

That was really my first professional foray into it. And I worked with so many amazing couples and love, you know, collaborating with the owners and really approaching it from like, wow, I wish I had this when I was getting married or, you know, I was planning for my friends or my family. It was a beautiful opportunity and I learned so much from that. And now I’m…

taken a sidestep from working with the venue to going out on my own and that gives me a little more freedom and I get to be a little more creative with different venues, different people, different places. So that’s where I’m at today. Yeah.

Shawn Grindle (01:59)
Boom. So where exactly are you located at? Because I know when we worked together, it was at that venue and that was up in the mountains kind of around near Big Bear, right? Like up in that area. So do you live up in the mountains or where are you based out of?

Erin (02:13)
I don’t. I’m actually based in Laguna Hills. But I work, yeah, I work all around Orange County. I still work at that beautiful venue, by the way, just different capacity. I love that venue, not gonna lie. But yeah.

Shawn Grindle (02:16)
Oh, okay, cool.

Sure.

So you’re mostly doing weddings kind of all over Southern California. Do you do any destination stuff or you mostly try to stay local?

Erin (02:35)
I, right now in this phase of life, I am a mom of two boys. So as much as I love travel and love destination weddings, professionally right now, it makes more sense to me to stay local.

Shawn Grindle (02:48)
Sure, gotta have the priorities in order. So talk to me about this because I always like to ask people this is if you have one piece of advice to give newly engaged couples, what’s the number one piece of advice you would give them out of the gate? Step one.

Erin (03:04)
Yeah, it’s to really start thinking deeply. A lot of people just want to dive right in and they get to the Pinterest board and they look at all the details and they kind of look at all the images that are always so beautiful. And I think that’s a little misstep. And while it’s so common, I just I think there’s so much more value in taking the time to really thinking about what a successful wedding means to you, what your priorities are.

and just really defining exactly what it is that you’re trying to achieve. And in the long run, as you plan, if you have these priorities, it’s gonna help you with your budget, it’s gonna help you with just all the little decisions, like decision fatigue. If you know your priorities, it’s gonna make everything so much easier. So I always say start with that. As a side note,

Shawn Grindle (03:51)
sure.

Erin (04:00)
I know you’ll get into this later on my website. I do have a free worksheet that is all about, it’s called Casting Your Wedding Vision. And it kind of walks couples through that process if people are interested.

Shawn Grindle (04:13)
Oh, that’s nice. Yeah, that’s a good resource to have because I mean, I think, you know, especially nowadays with Instagram and Tik Tok and all these, you know, social media things that you can see what everybody in the entire world is doing at their wedding. So people, I think, tend to get kind of overwhelmed by it, right? Because they see all these ideas they want at all. So, you know, do you kind of does your she kind of help people hone it in? Like, like pick what’s important to you and go from there.

Erin (04:41)
Yes, yeah, it really does. And I, to me, the most successful, the most memorable weddings that I’ve worked at, it really reflects the unique couple. So like, as to your point with all of the images, like social media and everything coming through, it’s so easy to like grab from everybody else’s vision.

that you kind of lose sight of what it is that really like you’re trying to celebrate about your unique relationship. So yes, that form does start that. Cat in the back. There’s a cat behind me, yes.

Shawn Grindle (05:12)
Yeah.

I love it. Is there a cat behind you? I love it. I saw the tail and I was like, oh, that’s okay. We get lots of pets in this podcast. We’ll probably leave it in. They make appearances all the time. It’s fine. So let’s talk about the big one then because budget is a big thing. And I think, you know, when I got married two years ago, started planning four years ago, that was a big thing where we kind of, we said, all right, this is what we want. This is our budget. Soon found out that.

Erin (05:28)
That’s it.

Shawn Grindle (05:46)
it was completely unrealistic. So, you know, what’s your kind of piece of advice in terms of saying this is what I want, but this is our budget. So how do we compromise on these things and find a realistic number, especially for people who don’t work in the wedding industry and don’t know how much things cost.

Erin (06:04)
Yeah, so it’s a great question and I have a couple of thoughts about it. First of all, to really begin crafting any sort of budget, you are going to have to put some research into it. I learned this the hard way a long time ago when I first started planning too, without having some base knowledge of what a vendor is going to cost or anything, a venue cost, what catering costs, any particular element.

Shawn Grindle (06:08)
Go for it.

Erin (06:33)
you are going to have to do some research. There is some resources, great resources online that makes that a little bit easier. I myself have another resource for that as part of my process too. But yeah, I think having just a little bit of knowledge of that and then you can even like my resource kind of delves into like here are the typical percentages of a budget that goes into the things and also

Shawn Grindle (06:44)
Sure.

Erin (07:01)
here are the typical costs. Now I have to take a sidestep here and just claim that these numbers vary by location incredibly. So I’m speaking from Southern California as does my resource. So I just want everybody to know that. I know your audience is kind of national. So I don’t want to overlook that. But anyways.

Shawn Grindle (07:11)
Right, of course.

Yeah.

But I think that’s a lot of places. If vendors are traveling three hours from their home base, then it is going to cost more.

Erin (07:33)
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, so once you have kind of like a base knowledge, then you go back to your priorities and you really determine like, okay, you know, if you if a priority is to have your memories and all of your hard work captured, which it is for many, many couples prioritize photography, videography, any sort of documentation of their big day, then you you will, you don’t want to like, not.

dedicate the money to that person, right? Like if that’s a priority of yours, then you know that you can look for a photographer that really is aligned with what the work that you want reflected. And then you can kind of like, you know that you’re gonna spend that money. And then something else, perhaps I’m just, this is just throwing, you know, things at you, but.

Shawn Grindle (08:05)
Right.

Erin (08:27)
let’s say invitations aren’t as important to somebody, then you can kind of take money from there. So again, it all comes full circle into your priorities and what’s important to you and what isn’t.

Shawn Grindle (08:41)
Yeah. And I think that’s also when, when people get started, you know, getting a wedding planner that kind of can help you find those things, right? Because I’ve worked with a lot of couples and we’ve come in and they don’t have a planner and it’s all over the place. You know, and I, you know, I always tell people, I feel like every time I work a wedding with, uh, that didn’t have any kind of coordination, which is rare nowadays, but when I do, I’m like, there’s no way this wedding, this wedding costs more.

than it would have if they had just found somebody who could figure this out. Like.

Erin (09:13)
Yeah, yeah, it’s kind of ironic. And I, my heart goes out to couples because I know, like the price of things, it adds up so quickly. Like I really, I understand if people cannot work with professionals like in this capacity, you know, as a planner, a full on planner, especially as it is a big investment to make, often a worthy one and a worthwhile one. But, you know, I don’t want to just overlook that the costs add up so fast. And so,

Shawn Grindle (09:19)
Yeah.

Erin (09:43)
But yeah, but the people that do are able to hire at least a day of coordinator, it can all that person is kind of like the glue to everything that you’ve like brought together, you know, and it makes a huge difference. I think, especially for your stress levels, your enjoyment of your own wedding that day, you know, I think it’s, it’s really

Shawn Grindle (09:55)
Yeah.

Yeah. Well, and also just saving you all the time with that research. Like, I mean, wedding planners, I mean, like yourself, you can tell pretty much on the, if somebody’s like, I’m interested in something like this, you can pretty much off the top of your head be like, well, here’s roughly what that’s going to cost. You know what I mean? Like I’ve, I’ve, I’ve done this before. I know you don’t have, I save you the Google research. I’m just telling you, you know,

Erin (10:23)
Yeah, yeah, and that’s what I was mentioning. I actually have a resource for my couples that like, it’s my step one is basically the casting your vision, knowing your priorities. Step two is crafting the budget. And that’s where my resource kind of fills in those blanks for people.

Shawn Grindle (10:26)
Yeah.

So talk to me a little bit about these resources. So when you do your planning, is this kind of part of like your planning package or is this just something you offer like even if they don’t book you as their planner, is this something they can get or like buy from you to like have these resources or how? Talk to me a little bit about.

Erin (10:52)
Yeah, I would love to. Thank you for actually asking that question because I’m actually developing like a virtual planner and it’s the exact process that I work with my couples. And again, my heart really does go out to everybody and the cost of living and the cost of everything. So I’m trying to make working with a wedding planner much more accessible. So I am developing this virtual planning system.

I will have an option. It has all of my resources that I give my couples. It has a full on checklist that’s a little bit overwhelming honestly when you look at it, but also it makes sure that nothing gets overlooked and it attracts your budget. It’s like a collaborative tool. It does a ton of stuff. So my goal is to have it launched next month. I don’t know when this is going out, but.

Shawn Grindle (11:29)
Sure, sure.

Oh wow.

Erin (11:49)
May 2024. But yeah, so my vision is to have one thing where I will offer like a community type of thing and we’ll also do Q &A calls so that if there is a situation that isn’t covered like in the virtual planner itself, then you’ll have an opportunity to submit your questions and then I can approach your specific challenge or question personally. So that is my…

Shawn Grindle (12:17)
I love that. Yeah. Let me know when it’s being launched. I mean, we’d love to promote it. That sounds great. I wish I had something like that when I was planning. We made our own checklist and the checklist kept changing every month because we forgot things. It was not right.

Erin (12:18)
Thank you.

Yeah, I mean, honestly, that’s how I’ve approached everything from the very beginning. It’s like what I would have wanted and what I see time and time again from my clients. Like I just, people, everybody gets so stressed and so, and I understand it. It’s this big daunting task and nobody has planned a wedding until you’ve planned a wedding. So just trying to bring in some more joy and ease to the planning part of people’s weddings.

Shawn Grindle (13:01)
I think that’s a big thing that a lot of people forget about, especially, you know, because like you said, planning a wedding is stressful, but it doesn’t have to be. I mean, I love my wedding and even the planning as stressful as it was at times, like I kind of miss it because there were times I was like, this is fun. We get to be creative and plan this awesome party. So I think having something that anything people can use to kind of take away that stress, you know, or at least organize it, you know. Yeah.

Erin (13:25)
Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And I know everybody’s, you know, everybody’s brains work differently. Like there are people like you that really enjoy the planning and they kind of, you know, thrive in a little bit of chaos. And honestly, that’s how I am. Well, it’s probably a lot of the planners that you talk to. That’s kind of like our superpowers, you know, staying calm and collected in the middle of chaos and problem solving and, you know, thinking clearly when…

Shawn Grindle (13:39)
I’m rare, not many people like that.

Yeah.

Erin (13:54)
shit hits the fan. I don’t know if we’re allowed to kiss.

Shawn Grindle (13:56)
It does, it’s okay. There’s really no, no, there’s no hard fast rules here, you know? But yeah, it’s, I think that’s great. And yeah, please let me know when that’s all out because I’d love to, you know, promote that on here and also on our socials and whatnot, because I think that’s a great resource for people to have. So yeah, great. So let’s get into some, some kind of wedding specific stuff. So just stuff that we, you know, can talk about here. So.

Erin (14:15)
Amazing. Thank you. I will. Yeah.

Shawn Grindle (14:24)
Obviously, weddings, even in the, I’ve only been doing really weddings for about five years now. So I’m relatively new to that. I was mostly working in corporate stuff and whatnot prior to that. But even in those five years, maybe because of social media, I’ve seen a lot of things change. Things that were happening a lot now aren’t happening. So in your experience from when you’ve started weddings till now, what are some of the trends you’ve seen that have really gone a different direction? Either things we used to do that now we’re not, or things we never did, but now we’re doing all the time.

Erin (14:54)
Good question. I think I’ll start kind of generalizing. I think when I first started, the traditional wedding aspects, it was almost like a, here’s A, B, and C, and you must do this, regardless of how you feel about it. All the wedding events within a reception, all the things.

It was just like, you had to have the guest favors and you had to have the proper settings. And all the little details were just like, you didn’t even give it a thought. Your customization of that was simply which colors or which specific details of that one thing. Whereas now, I love…

what I love the most about this time right now is that people are kind of like, I don’t like that. Like that doesn’t mean anything for me. It doesn’t do anything to celebrate my relationship. I don’t want it. We’re not doing it. And I think what’s resulting is these really beautiful celebrations that really reflects the couples. Again, not to be repetitive, but to come full circle back to the priorities and knowing,

Shawn Grindle (16:00)
Yeah.

Erin (16:16)
what a successful wedding means to you, it’s all about your big picture and you’re there to celebrate the commitment to one another. And I feel like people are honing into that and really making it important. And I love that right now.

Shawn Grindle (16:16)
Mm -hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah, and I think you segued perfectly into one of my other questions I like to ask, which is because of that, we see a lot of interesting things at weddings that are very unique to those people, like you said. So is there anything that sticks out in your mind as like one of the most unique things you’ve seen a couple do that was just very then that you’ve never really seen again? You were like, this is awesome, you know?

Erin (16:50)
Ha!

Yes, well, I always love experiences. So, I mean, I love the wedding that I met you at and you and your wife did the performance and the dueling pianos. I love that experience. It brought… Yes, yes.

Shawn Grindle (17:04)
Yeah, yeah.

with the rain, right? Wasn’t it raining? It was cool. It was awesome. They were fun. Yeah.

Erin (17:16)
It was an amazing experience and I loved it. I think you guys, like it really made such a memorable wedding. And I think that not only the couple, but the guests walked away from that. Like they’re not gonna forget that, you know? So I loved that. There was another wedding that did the experience of having an aerialist who, she showed up with her own rig. It was like.

Shawn Grindle (17:38)
Ooooo

Erin (17:41)
I don’t know, 20 feet tall, it was on the grass, and she just performed a set during cocktail hour for like, I think she had two 20 minute sets where she was just, you know, up in the air, doing like tricks and stuff, and people could get their drinks and just kind of gathered around and watched her. And it was just a very unique, and the bride herself had trained to do that. She…

Shawn Grindle (17:52)
That’s amazing.

Erin (18:07)
she did not get onto the right, she considered doing it for a minute, but she didn’t. But that’s how, like, you know, the story. I was like, yeah, I was like, please do it and also, you know, don’t get hurt. So yeah, I think those two, it’s really the experiences, the experiences you create for your guests, those are always the most memorable.

Shawn Grindle (18:12)
That would be, yeah, be careful.

Don’t hurt yourself. Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that, yeah, I got married up in, up at a, have you ever been to Reptacular Animals Ranch up in Somar?

Erin (18:38)
No, but I need to.

Shawn Grindle (18:39)
It’s just as wild as it sounds. It’s like they’ve got camels and all this stuff. And I was just like, we had like a dog, we had the beer burrow with like the donkey bringing you beer. And I was like, this stuff’s awesome. You know, people still, and I saw an Instagram just yesterday that there was a couple that got married in Texas during the eclipse. I don’t know if you saw this, but it was like their vows, like the ideas were like right when it was like full totality. And I was like,

Erin (18:50)
That’s me.

Shawn Grindle (19:07)
That planning was next level. I was like, that is cool. Like, yeah. I was like, that’s the coolest thing I’ve ever seen.

Erin (19:10)
Wow, yes, that is really cool. And also I think I just got like a tiny bit stressed about like sticking that closely to a timeline as you’re speaking. Holy look.

Shawn Grindle (19:19)
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. That’s the first thing that I mean, anybody who’s like a bride or groom is like, oh my God, that looks cool. Anybody who’s ever planned weddings or knows like what goes into them, you’re like, oh man, there’s no room for error.

Erin (19:33)
Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Props to them. What a great idea. But again, like unforgettable, like those these moments. And I think it’s so cool that like in this day and age with all the resources that we have available to us, like people really like everyday couples can craft things like this. And that’s so cool.

Shawn Grindle (19:36)
You know, you get one shot at that. Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, that’s the benefit of social media and whatnot. You know, you can get all these ideas and you’ve got the Pinterest board and all that stuff. So it, you know, my wife was on there all the time. Oh, this is so cool. This is so cool. This is so cool. And it was before we got a planner. So I kind of be the one who was like, well, let’s, can’t do it all. We gotta focus a little bit here. This wedding is gonna be seven different genres. But it was such a fun journey.

Erin (20:17)
What?

Yes.

Shawn Grindle (20:28)
So opposite edge of that sword, what’s the cringiest thing you’ve ever seen? What’s like the horror story? Everybody’s got one. I’ve got many, but I’m curious what pops into your head is like, oh, this was cringy, this didn’t work.

Erin (20:38)
Thank you.

Yeah, you know what, I’m fortunate, I’m so fortunate to work with so many amazing couples. Like I’ve gotten so lucky that my, the cringe -worthy things are minimal and I love that. But I will say like what I cringe at is like the Venmo and Zell like gift placards on each reception, each guest table. I don’t know if you’ve seen that.

Shawn Grindle (21:11)
Oh, I’ve never seen this. They do like a Venmo us on each table.

Erin (21:16)
Yes, yes. And listen, again, I understand all the costs add up and I understand, I’m not opposed to the registry being a honey fund or a result, there’s so many different things now. I understand that, especially in modern day when couples probably live together already and they have a home set up and times are changing. So the money registry doesn’t bother me. But if you’re…

Shawn Grindle (21:30)
Yeah.

Erin (21:46)
If you’re looking to monetize your wedding that much, I feel like there’s other ways to do it. At the end of your wedding, if you want more money in your pocket at the end of it, I would suggest instead of having those signs on the table or wherever all over your reception asking people to pay you, I would instead just say, whittle down your guest list. Make it smaller.

save money that way, really spoil and be generous to a smaller amount of people if you can, and let them enjoy the day. And I think that you would find that you would end up with more money that way than you will inviting just like everybody under the moon hoping that they’re all gonna gift you with something. Does that make sense?

Shawn Grindle (22:23)
Mm -hmm.

Yeah, I’ve never seen that before. I don’t think that would be, I think people would be like, that’s interesting. Especially since a lot of people come to a wedding already with a card that usually has cash if they didn’t do a gift or anything, you know? So they’ve already got that. You know what I mean? I don’t know, that does seem a little, a little strange to me. I, yeah.

Erin (22:59)
Yes. Yeah, I think that’s, I mean, I’m hoping, hoping that it doesn’t happen all that often. But if anybody’s considering that, that is my two cents on it. Like find, you know, even if you can’t whittle the guest countdown, you know, take away guest favorite, do something else that will end up with much, just kind of reframe the whole money in your pocket idea into another idea than asking everybody for money in that way.

Shawn Grindle (23:11)
Sorry.

Yeah.

And this kind of brings up something that I think is interesting, because I’ve talked to a few people about this. I want to hear your take on it. Speaking of people coming to your wedding and whatnot, what’s your take on managing your guest list? Because I know a lot of brides and grooms, they kind of have this thing where, especially if mom or dad is paying for the wedding and suddenly you find yourself at this wedding where you only know 60 % of the guests there. So what’s your kind of take on?

managing your gas list and being okay with saying, we’re not inviting that person or you’re not getting a plus one or whatever that is. Like what’s your kind of take on that?

Erin (24:04)
Yeah, so there’s so many different scenarios. It’s hard to generalize. But I would say if your parents are contributing to your wedding, then I think it’s really important from the very start to have really clear, open communication with them and just being like, obviously, hopefully being grateful for the gift that they’re giving you and also just saying, what is your expectation with this money? Like,

are there certain guests that you’re gonna ask me to invite? Like just knowing what the expectation is upfront. And then really if it’s not okay with your vision, then you’re gonna have to have a hard conversation. And the sooner you have it, the better. But I think that there has to be a little give and take if you are having your wedding contributed to. Like I can’t.

Personally, my values don’t let me sit here and be like, oh, your parents can pay, but they have no say in anything. That doesn’t sit right with me. It could with somebody else, and that’s totally fine. My thing is, I think that there’s a little give and take, and you can allow a certain amount of guests, but then also say, this is my vision, this is what I want, this is what’s important to us, and then really just holding that boundary throughout your planning.

Shawn Grindle (25:04)
Right. Yeah.

Yeah. And what about even, even if you are playing for the wedding yourself? Cause I’ve, I’ve had to have conversations with brides who I can tell are stressed out because, and it’s a weird world we live in where people who are invited to weddings sometimes just feel entitled already. And they’re like, wait, you don’t want my new boyfriend to come. You don’t want my new girlfriend to come. And it’s like, no, I don’t want to pay a hundred dollars for them to come eat. I don’t know. You know, it’s like, I don’t know. Like what’s your kind of take on that? Like I think, um,

Yeah, I’ve talked to a lot of brides who get stressed when their guest list is 30 people higher because they’ve done plus ones for people and you know, they’re bringing people are bringing the date of the week. I don’t know, you know.

Erin (26:01)
Yeah.

Yeah, and I think that that’s just, I don’t ever think that’s like people trying to take granted the situation or like maliciousness. I think it’s honestly people like guests just don’t know. Like I said earlier, you don’t know what it means to plan a wedding until you’ve planned a wedding. Like you just, you don’t know how the costs add up, how quickly they add up. So I think to those brides that are self -funding or even if they’re not, but they’re trying to limit, again, the clear communication straight,

Shawn Grindle (26:20)
Right.

Erin (26:34)
out of the gate. I recommend doing this on a website. I’m actually currently helping a bride with the verbiage on her website to say, they have a big guest list, but they’re maxed out at their venue. And she has a lot of other extended friends and family. So I just actually worked with her to kind of craft the right verbiage to basically be like,

Shawn Grindle (26:43)
You got it all, yeah.

Erin (26:57)
please RSVP promptly, you know, because there’s people waiting and there’s, we would like all of our extended family who wants to be there to be able to be part of the celebration. So we crafted it a lot better than that, but that’s the idea.

Shawn Grindle (27:08)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We’re really popular. So get in first come first serve.

Erin (27:14)
Yeah, right? Yeah.

Shawn Grindle (27:19)
Yeah, yeah, I always ask that to people because we had that issue and you know, we set a rule of no plus ones and we were hard on it. I mean, even like, I think like some of our immediate family, we were like, no, like, because like my sister, for example, like it’s like, we said no plus ones, it was like, she would have just brought a friend or something. And it’s like, we just come, you know, everybody, you don’t need to bring somebody, you know, what am I, why am I paying for that? Like, no.

Erin (27:42)
Yeah!

Yeah. Yeah.

Shawn Grindle (27:47)
It’s so much money per person. I don’t want to do that. You know.

Erin (27:50)
Yeah, and I think, yeah, I really encourage people in that, especially in that case, when the guest is somebody who does know everybody who has friends and family there, like, there’s no need for it. And I think just like that open communication, setting the boundaries upfront, and sticking to them and being consistent with them. So like, you can’t say yes to one person and say no to another, like you, your consistency has to be there, you have to know within yourself and like know your boundary and just,

Shawn Grindle (28:09)
Yeah.

Right.

Erin (28:19)
stick to it. You can do it with kindness. You can do everything with kindness.

Shawn Grindle (28:21)
Yep, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that’s how it is. You just gotta be nice and open with each other. Well, okay, well we’re coming close to the end here, so before we wrap it up, is there anything else you kinda wanna mention, talk about, anything about your business, your company, your life, anything that we did not cover that you can think of that you want people to know?

Erin (28:41)
Well, okay, I’ll say that this is coming to mind. I am not good at social media. If you go on my account, I think I have like 11 posts. So, but I think part of my resistance is the fact, like I have, it’s so funny, I have thousands of client photos, like thousands. I have the full galleries and it would be so easy, like in theory for me just to post them.

Shawn Grindle (28:45)
Okay.

Me neither.

so bad.

Erin (29:08)
and put a small little caption or not and just be done with it. I think my resistance comes where I’m really trying to provide value to people. Like in the plan, like I really want people’s planning to be fun and to be much less stressful. So this is an invitation to listeners to like come find me on social, ask like DM me, ask me a question. Like give me, what is your challenges? Like let me know your challenges. Let me know your.

Shawn Grindle (29:33)
Yeah.

Erin (29:36)
questions, let me know your thoughts, let me know ideas of what would make it more fun. And I would love to create resources like on through my social media to respond to that. I feel like I feel like that would be way more fun for me and way more fun for everybody to be able to learn from social media in this way. So that’s a very random ask for people.

Shawn Grindle (29:56)
Great. No, I love it. I love it. And so you’re like me, I’m horrible at posting, but if you DM me, I’ll probably see it and respond. I can communicate. I just can’t post. I don’t have time. And now I always laugh because now they got TikTok, which I’m still getting used to like Instagram and Facebook, you know, and now TikTok is like, you gotta make, you gotta be like Martin Scorsese and make a short film every time. I can’t do it. Me neither.

Erin (30:05)
Yes! Yes!

I’m honestly not even on TikTok. That’s how bad my resistance is. I’m not.

Shawn Grindle (30:25)
I can’t do it. It’s too much for me. But yeah, you heard it here. Hop in there and it’s the end. Just say hi. Great. Well, listen, last thing I wanted to say just before we wrap it up is I think there’s no awards on this podcast, but I do think you get a best background award if we did have one. I don’t know where you are, but it’s like I sit at this ugly orange wall. Everybody else is in like an office, but I love the like, where are you right now? Are you in like a, looks like you’re in like a garden almost.

Erin (30:33)
Yeah.

Go.

I live in a very small home with my two boys and my husband. And so for what I’m creating with the community, I do some videos and stuff. So this is what I’m in the corner of my bedroom and I’ve just created it to give it the vibe that I’m wanting to create for everything I put into the world.

Shawn Grindle (31:10)
Yeah.

Well, it looks great. So I just wanted to give you a shout out for that background because you know, I think you win. Yeah. All right. Well, we’ll talk later and we’ll obviously we’ll link to all your social medias and everything. And please let me know when that virtual thing is done. I want to make sure everybody knows where to find that because I think that’s super cool. And thank you for doing this and being here and being awesome and helping people out. And you know what? We’ll talk soon. You have a great rest of your day. All right.

Erin (31:20)
Thank you.

Yeah. Thank you.

Thank you, thanks so much, Shawn

Shawn Grindle (31:45)
All right, I’ll talk to you soon, bye.


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